Episode 4 – Ashley Leeds

In this episode of the Head Smart podcast, I talk to Ashley Leeds who I met during lockdown when everything was on zoom.

Ashley has a very emotional and inspiring story to tell and it still makes me tear up now, however, there is a happy ending.

Ashley’s story loops back to my first podcast episode when I spoke about whether you think you can or whether you think you can’t, either way you’re right.

There’s also a quick appearance from Frank Spencer, Michael Crawford’s 1970’s alter ego, appearing as Joesph in an alternative nativity play.